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Very good article I agree with most of it, which actually surprises me ,
considering its source, commondreams.org . Other stuff I ve read from that
website has angered me and driven me further to the right in the past.
Progressive thinkers, which seems to include me now as well , need to learn a
very important lesson from this election. What we say and write, stick to our
bumpers, wear on our t-shirts, etc. needs to be measured and thought through.
Are we just communicating with each other and pushing away anyone who may be
looking at things from a different viewpoint then our own?
I did not see Fahrenheit 911 but I m pretty sure it contributed to Bush s
re-election. I m guessing anyone that was on the fence as to who to vote for,
was pushed firmly in Bush s direction. I m guessing all that movie did, was
to cause someone who was already very anti -Bush to become even more anti Bush.
A pro-Bush colleague of mine, who did see the movie, totally dismissed it as
utter nonsense.
A very good teacher of this lesson is our new Senator here in IL, Barack Obama
. He is against the war in Iraq, against drilling for oil in ANWR, for gay
marriage, for stem cell research, etc, however; he always gives the impression
that he wants to understand the opposing view.
Barack Obama and Michael Moore have similar views. Obama s approach will
effectively put progressive thinkers in positions of power and effect the
change we want. Michael Moore will drive the masses away and reduce
progressive thinkers to a fringe minority.
Of Danny s friends, some use Obama s approach, and some use Moore s approach.
Martin (Danny s Dad)
Martin Reeves
CBT Companies Inc.
Peoria and Moline, IL
www.cbtcompanies.com
Direct: (309) 495-1741
Toll Free: (800) 747-6500
Cell: (309) 453-2007
Fax: (309) 676-6068
Email mreeves Æ cbtmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Erin Frey [mailto:erinbarin23 Æ hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:50 PM
To: dreeves Æ umich.edu; improvetheworld Æ umich.edu
Subject: RE: improving the world
Funny article...
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1103-28.htm
>From: Daniel Reeves
>To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu
>Subject: improving the world
>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:21:13 -0500 (EST)
>
>I'm creating a new mailing list for discussion of how to improve the world
>(primarily bitching about Bush a while longer till we reach catharsis on
>that one). There are just a few key people on it so far, but I made a web
>page to get on or off, if you want to start spreading the word...
>
>http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
>
>
>And while I'm at it:
>
> What Do You Think?
> The Republican Majority
>
>Last week, Bush became the first Republican president to be re-elected
>with House and Senate majorities since 1924. What do you think?
>
> "So they still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office? Well,
>at least we still have the smug, condescending attitude that cost us the
>election in the first place."
> Beverly Banks
> Systems Analyst
>
> "Our nation may be bitterly divided, but at least our government
>can agree on being ultra-conservative."
> Edgar Mendez
> Data Keyer
>
> "What's so bad about this? Could some Democrat explain it to me in
>under an hour, without starting to scream or cry?"
> Sam Howell
> Credit Checker
>
> "The fact that 48 percent of Americans voted for a boring
>placeholder like John Kerry is actually a really good sign for the Left ."
> Leo Watts
> Custom Tailor
>
>-----
>
>Bush Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time
> WASHINGTON, DC--A week after winning a narrow victory over Democratic
>presidential nominee John Kerry, President Bush promised to "unite the
>divided nation, but for real this time." "Just as I pledged in 2000, I
>promise to bring the two halves of this nation together--only this time
>I'm really gonna do it," Bush said Tuesday. "I'll work hard to put an end
>to partisan politics. Seriously, though. This term, I will." Bush then
>requested the support of all Americans for his agenda of cutting taxes and
>extending America's presence in Iraq.
>
>
>--
>http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves"
>
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Very good
article I agree with most of it, which actually surprises me, considering its
source, commondreams.org . Other
stuff I ve read from that website has angered me and driven me further to the
right in the past. Progressive
thinkers, which seems to include me now as well, need to learn a very important
lesson from this election. What we
say and write, stick to our bumpers, wear on our t-shirts, etc. needs to be
measured and thought through. Are
we just communicating with each other and pushing away anyone who may be
looking at things from a different viewpoint then our own?
I did not
see Fahrenheit 911 but I m pretty sure it contributed to Bush s
re-election. I m guessing anyone
that was on the fence as to who to vote for, was pushed firmly in Bush s
direction. I m guessing all that
movie did, was to cause someone who was already very anti-Bush to become even
more anti Bush. A pro -Bush
colleague of mine, who did see the movie, totally dismissed it as utter
nonsense.
A very
good teacher of this lesson is our new Senator here in IL, Barack Obama . He
is against the war in Iraq, against
drilling for oil in ANWR, for gay marriage, for stem cell research, etc,
however; he always gives the impression that he wants to understand the
opposing view.
Barack
Obama and Michael Moore have similar views. Obama s approach will
effectively put progressive thinkers
in positions of power and effect the change we want. Michael Moore will
drive the masses away and reduce
progressive thinkers to a fringe minority .
Of Danny s
friends, some use Obama s approach, and some use Moore s approach .
Martin
(Danny s Dad)
Martin Reeves
CBT Companies Inc .
Peoria and Moline, IL
www.cbtcompanies.com
Direct: (309) 5-1741
Toll Free: (800) 747-6500
Cell: (309)
453-2007
Fax: (309)
676-6068
Email mreeves Æ cbtmail.com
-----Original
Message-----
From: Erin Frey
[mailto:erinbarin23 Æ hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November , 2004
12:50 PM
To: dreeves Æ umich.edu;
improvetheworld Æ umich.edu
Subject: RE: improving the world
Funny
article...
http://www.commondreams.org/views04 /1103-28.htm
>From:
Daniel Reeves <dreeves Æ umich.edu>
>To:
improvetheworld Æ umich.edu
>Subject:
improving the world
>Date:
Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:21:13 -0500 (EST)
>
>I'm
creating a new mailing list for discussion of how to improve the world
>(primarily
bitching about Bush a while longer till we reach catharsis on
>that
one). There are just a few key people on it so far, but I made a web
>page to
get on or off, if you want to start spreading the word...
>
>http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people /dreeves/improvetheworld
>
>
>And while
I'm at it:
>
> What
Do You Think?
> The
Republican Majority
>
>Last
week, Bush became the first Republican president to be re-elected
>with
House and Senate majorities since 1924. What do you think?
>
> "So
they still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office? Well,
>at least
we still have the smug, condescending attitude that cost us the
>election
in the first place."
> Beverly
Banks
> Systems
Analyst
>
>
"Our nation may be bitterly divided, but at least our government
>can agree
on being ultra-conservative."
> Edgar
Mendez
> Data
Keyer
>
>
"What's so bad about this? Could some Democrat explain it to me in
>under an
hour, without starting to scream or cry?"
> Sam
Howell
> Credit
Checker
>
>
"The fact that 48 percent of Americans voted for a boring
>placeholder
like John Kerry is actually a really good sign for the Left."
> Leo
Watts
> Custom
Tailor
>
>-----
>
>Bush
Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time
> WASHINGTON,
DC--A week after winning a narrow victory over Democratic
>presidential
nominee John Kerry, President Bush promised to "unite the
>divided
nation, but for real this time." "Just as I pledged in 2000, I
>promise
to bring the two halves of this nation together--only this time
>I'm
really gonna do it," Bush said Tuesday. "I'll work hard to put an end
>to
partisan politics. Seriously, though. This term, I will." Bush then
>requested
the support of all Americans for his agenda of cutting taxes and
>extending
America's presence in Iraq.
>
>
>--
>http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people /dreeves -
- google://"Daniel Reeves"
>
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