X-Spam-Status: No -- Hits: -1.522 Required: 5 X-Spam-Summary: BAYES_00,HTML_80_90,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR Sender: -1.522 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from smtp.eecs.umich.edu (smtp.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.43]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAAHTaJc003405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:29:36 -0500 Received: from granny.mr.itd.umich.edu (granny.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.70]) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iAAHTSAT006119 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:29:30 -0500 Received: FROM ns0.cbtcompanies.com (68-77-225-91.ded.ameritech.net [68.77.225.91]) BY granny.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 41924F10.BCB2E.32175 ; 10 Nov 2004 12:25:37 -0500 Received: from mobilemr (CBT [68.77.225.65]) by ns0.cbtcompanies.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with SMTP id iAAHHKU7013429; Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:17:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C4C716.A2ECC390" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: X-Spam: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.972 () HTML_80_90,HTML_MESSAGE,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:15:50 -0600 To: "Erin Frey" , , From: "Martin Reeves" Subject: RE: improving the world Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C4C716.A2ECC390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very good article=85I agree with most of it, which actually surprises = me, considering its source, =91commondreams.org=92. Other stuff I=92ve = read from that website has angered me and driven me further to the right = in the past. Progressive thinkers, which seems to include me now as = well, need to learn a very important lesson from this election. What we = say and write, stick to our bumpers, wear on our t-shirts, etc. needs to = be measured and thought through. Are we just communicating with each = other and pushing away anyone who may be looking at things from a = different viewpoint then our own? =20 =20 I did not see =91Fahrenheit 911=92 but I=92m pretty sure it contributed = to Bush=92s re-election. I=92m guessing anyone that was on the fence as = to who to vote for, was pushed firmly in Bush=92s direction. I=92m = guessing all that movie did, was to cause someone who was already very = anti-Bush to become even more anti Bush. A pro-Bush colleague of mine, = who did see the movie, totally dismissed it as utter nonsense. =20 =20 A very good teacher of this lesson is our new Senator here in IL, Barack = Obama. He is against the war in Iraq, against drilling for oil in ANWR, = for gay marriage, for stem cell research, etc, however; he always gives = the impression that he wants to understand the opposing view. =20 =20 Barack Obama and Michael Moore have similar views. Obama=92s approach = will effectively put progressive thinkers in positions of power and = effect the change we want. Michael Moore will drive the masses away and = reduce progressive thinkers to a fringe minority. =20 Of Danny=92s friends, some use Obama=92s approach, and some use = Moore=92s approach. =20 =20 Martin (Danny=92s Dad)=20 =20 =20 =20 Martin Reeves =20 CBT Companies Inc. Peoria and Moline, IL =20 www.cbtcompanies.com =20 Direct: (309) 495-1741 Toll Free: (800) 747-6500 Cell: (309) 453-2007 Fax: (309) 676-6068 =20 Email mreeves Æ cbtmail.com =20 -----Original Message----- From: Erin Frey [mailto:erinbarin23 Æ hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:50 PM To: dreeves Æ umich.edu; improvetheworld Æ umich.edu Subject: RE: improving the world =20 =20 Funny article...=20 http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1103-28.htm=20 >From: Daniel Reeves =20 >To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu=20 >Subject: improving the world=20 >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:21:13 -0500 (EST)=20 >=20 >I'm creating a new mailing list for discussion of how to improve the = world=20 >(primarily bitching about Bush a while longer till we reach catharsis = on=20 >that one). There are just a few key people on it so far, but I made a = web=20 >page to get on or off, if you want to start spreading the word...=20 >=20 >http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld=20 >=20 >=20 >And while I'm at it:=20 >=20 > What Do You Think?=20 > The Republican Majority=20 >=20 >Last week, Bush became the first Republican president to be re-elected=20 >with House and Senate majorities since 1924. What do you think?=20 >=20 > "So they still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office? Well,=20 >at least we still have the smug, condescending attitude that cost us = the=20 >election in the first place."=20 > Beverly Banks=20 > Systems Analyst=20 >=20 > "Our nation may be bitterly divided, but at least our government=20 >can agree on being ultra-conservative."=20 > Edgar Mendez=20 > Data Keyer=20 >=20 > "What's so bad about this? Could some Democrat explain it to me in=20 >under an hour, without starting to scream or cry?"=20 > Sam Howell=20 > Credit Checker=20 >=20 > "The fact that 48 percent of Americans voted for a boring=20 >placeholder like John Kerry is actually a really good sign for the = Left."=20 > Leo Watts=20 > Custom Tailor=20 >=20 >-----=20 >=20 >Bush Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time=20 > WASHINGTON, DC--A week after winning a narrow victory over Democratic = >presidential nominee John Kerry, President Bush promised to "unite the=20 >divided nation, but for real this time." "Just as I pledged in 2000, I=20 >promise to bring the two halves of this nation together--only this time = >I'm really gonna do it," Bush said Tuesday. "I'll work hard to put an = end=20 >to partisan politics. Seriously, though. This term, I will." Bush then=20 >requested the support of all Americans for his agenda of cutting taxes = and=20 >extending America's presence in Iraq.=20 >=20 >=20 >--=20 >http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves"=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C4C716.A2ECC390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ve= ry good article…I agree with most of it, which actually surprises me, = considering its source, ‘commondreams.org’.  Other stuff I’ve read from that website has angered me and driven me = further to the right in the past.  = Progressive thinkers, which seems to include me now as well, need to learn a very = important lesson from this election.  = What we say and write, stick to our bumpers, wear on our t-shirts, etc. needs to = be measured and thought through.  = Are we just communicating with each other and pushing away anyone who may be looking at things from a different viewpoint then our own?  =

 

I = did not see ‘Fahrenheit 911’ but I’m pretty sure it = contributed to Bush’s re-election.  I’m = guessing anyone that was on the fence as to who to vote for, was pushed firmly in = Bush’s direction.  I’m = guessing all that movie did, was to cause someone who was already very anti-Bush to become = even more anti Bush.  A = pro-Bush colleague of mine, who did see the movie, totally dismissed it as utter nonsense.  =

 

A = very good teacher of this lesson is our new Senator here in IL, Barack = Obama.  He is against the war in Iraq, = against drilling for oil in ANWR, for gay marriage, for stem cell research, etc, however; he always gives the impression that he wants to understand the opposing view.  =

 

Ba= rack Obama and Michael Moore have similar views.  Obama’s approach will effectively put = progressive thinkers in positions of power and effect the change we want.  Michael Moore will drive the masses away and reduce progressive thinkers to a fringe = minority.

 

Of= Danny’s friends, some use Obama’s approach, and some use Moore’s = approach.  =

 

Ma= rtin (Danny’s Dad)

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Erin Frey [mailto:erinbarin23 Æ hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November = 09, 2004 12:50 PM
To: dreeves Æ umich.edu; improvetheworld Æ umich.edu
Subject: RE: improving = the world

 

 

Funny article...

http://www.commondreams.org/views0= 4/1103-28.htm

>From: Daniel Reeves <dreeves Æ umich.edu>

>To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu

>Subject: improving the world

>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:21:13 -0500 (EST)

>

>I'm creating a new mailing list for discussion of how to improve the world =

>(primarily bitching about Bush a while longer till we reach catharsis on =

>that one).  There are just a few key people on it so far, but I = made a web

>page to get on or off, if you want to start spreading the word... =

>

>http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/peopl= e/dreeves/improvetheworld

>

>

>And while I'm at it:

>

>  What Do You Think?

>  The Republican Majority

>

>Last week, Bush became the first Republican president to be re-elected =

>with House and Senate majorities since 1924. What do you think? =

>

> "So they still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office? Well, =

>at least we still have the smug, condescending attitude that cost us the =

>election in the first place."

>  Beverly Banks

>  Systems Analyst

>

> "Our nation may be bitterly divided, but at least our government =

>can agree on being ultra-conservative."

>  Edgar Mendez

>  Data Keyer

>

> "What's so bad about this? Could some Democrat explain it to me in =

>under an hour, without starting to scream or cry?"

>  Sam Howell

>  Credit Checker

>

> "The fact that 48 percent of Americans voted for a boring =

>placeholder like John Kerry is actually a really good sign for the Left." =

>  Leo Watts

>  Custom Tailor

>

>-----

>

>Bush Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time

>  WASHINGTON, DC--A week after winning a narrow victory over Democratic =

>presidential nominee John Kerry, President Bush promised to "unite the =

>divided nation, but for real this time." "Just as I pledged in 2000, I =

>promise to bring the two halves of this nation together--only this time =

>I'm really gonna do it," Bush said Tuesday. "I'll work hard to put = an end

>to partisan politics. Seriously, though. This term, I will." Bush then =

>requested the support of all Americans for his agenda of cutting taxes and =

>extending America's presence in Iraq.

>

>

>--

>http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/peopl= e/dreeves  - -  google://"Daniel Reeves"

>

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