Wow, James, this is brilliant!
Thank goodness someone has taken on Graham for what he's worth!
Bravo!!!
Trixie
And here's another one of your words of true wisdom that I copied from
another email:
the introduction of mathematics into simple human transactions will often
just add overhead and produce little tangible benefit.
Applause!!!!!
>From: James W Mickens
>To: Daniel Reeves
>CC: Michelle Sternthal , Dave Morris ,
> improvetheworld Æ umich.edu, Steven Reeves ,
>reeves-hayos Æ umich.edu, reeves-kalkman Æ umich.edu
>Subject: Re: mind the gap
>Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
>
>>This is a big contribution to this debate. Thanks Michelle!
>>
>>Quick thought though:
>>
>>A life expectancy gap is bad and efforts to narrow it are laudable. Unless
>>the solution is to kill old people to harvest their organs to save people
>>who are dying younger.
>>
>>I'm just pointing out that an income gap being bad doesn't mean that
>>forced redistribution is good (or even necessarily helps the poor in
>>absolute terms).
>
>
>I realize that this is just an analogy, but it presents a misleading view
>of wealth redistribution. After all, it may be that older people have
>larger organs that are packed with redundant tissue. Thus, we could extract
>a sliver of an older person's organ with no penalty to her, and transplant
>that sliver into a younger person (with no organ at all!) for a great
>increase in net utility ;-).
>
>For a more concrete example, suppose that the economy has generated a
>single "new" dollar and that we can give this dollar to an extremely poor
>person or an extremely rich person. I claim that giving the dollar to the
>poor person almost always increases net utility more than giving that
>dollar to the rich person. Relatively speaking, that single dollar will
>afford the poor person many more opportunities for acquiring food, shelter,
>medicine, or simple peace of mind than it would for the rich person.
>
>Now let's suppose that the dollar is not "new," but instead has been
>redistributed from the rich person to the poor person. I would still claim
>that there is a net increase in utility. In other words, I claim that a
>public policy can be net-zero with respect to aggregate wealth generation
>but net-positive with respect to aggregate utility generation.
>
>One might argue that, in some cases, the rich person should receive the
>dollar so that she can invest it. This is a valid point, since the returns
>on the investment might result in a net increase in utility---for example,
>the investment might result in new entertainment technology or the creation
>of high paying jobs. I agree that investment helps to improve our quality
>of life and that, to some extent, investment is driven by the existence of
>people with surplus funds (and thus is driven by income inequality). I have
>no problem with this. However, I also believe in John Rawl's notions on
>inequality. As he says in his book "A Theory of Justice":
>
>
>"All social values---liberty and opportunity, income and wealth, and the
>bases of self-respect---are to be distributed equally unless an unequal
>distribution of any, or all, of these values is to everyone's advantage."
>
>
>Thus, I can tolerate (and, in fact, celebrate) the existence of wealthy
>entrepreneurs to the extent that the fruit of their labor and talent helps
>everyone. However, I see no reason to celebrate wealth in and of itself,
>since wealth isn't welfare, and welfare is what I care about.
>
>So, here's my question to the wealth-equals-welfare economists: do we
>currently live in a society with an acceptable level of wealth inequality?
>If the answer is yes, then why is this level of inequality acceptable?
>Furthermore, could it be that even *greater* inequality is acceptable, or
>even preferable? For example, could *fewer* people have health care in an
>acceptable world? Could *fewer* people have access to clean, safe
>neighborhoods? What areas of American society are too equitable for their
>own good?
>
>If the wealth-equals-welfare economists agree that there is too much
>inequality in our society, I have a different question. Now I want to know
>why people like Paul Graham spend so much time writing about America-Prime,
>which is just like America but where poor people deserve their lot in life
>and rich people are swept by the Darwinian tides to the shores of luxury?
>Why would Graham claim to derive deep insights about our current society
>based on the sociology of an alien nation bereft of discrimination and
>institutional injustice? Sometimes I feel that Graham is not an economist,
>but an ethnographer for some strange extraterrestrial civilization.
>
>Simply put, Paul Graham is not my boyfriend.
>
>~j
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