Message Number: |
566 |
From: |
Daniel Reeves <dreeves Æ umich.edu> |
Date: |
Wed, 8 Nov 2006 02:33:20 -0500 (EST) |
Subject: |
BREAKING NEWS: Democrats take both house and senate! |
Well, the house at least, but based on the current 90% probability on
tradesports I'm going for the scoop.
This of course says nothing about whether Republicans cheated. I liked
this comment by a blogger in New Zealand (not to endorse their 4.5M
number):
"Add it all up -- all those Democratic-leaning votes rejected, barred, and
spoiled -- and the Republican Party begins Election Day with a 4.5
million-vote thumb on the vote-tally scale.
"So, what are you going to do about it? May I suggest you ... steal back
your vote.
"It's true you can't win with 51% of the vote anymore. So just get over
it. The regime's sneak attack via vote suppression will only net them 4.5
million votes, about 5% of the total. You should be able to beat that
blindfolded. If you can't get 55%, then you're just a bunch of crybaby
pussycats who don't deserve to win back America."
ps, congratulations on this overnight improvement to the world!
--- \/ FROM Daniel Reeves AT 06.11.07 21:05 (Yesterday) \/ ---
> But it's only been in recent elections that the bias has shown up (according
> to the GOP website -- I haven't researched this myself).
>
> In any case, those are hypotheses to test, as you say. The conspiracy theory
> is plausible enough that it's important we get a scientifically rigorous
> answer to this. Reliable sources solicited!
>
> And the conspiracy doesn't have to be vast and across the board -- if there's
> an exit poll bias then there should be a measurable exit poll skew factor
> that can be adjusted for to detect instances of fraud.
>
> Actually, just checking if the exit poll skew is universal should reveal a
> lot. As Matt notes, a vast across-the-board conspiracy is implausible.
>
>
> --- \/ FROM Matt Rudary AT 06.11.07 20:47 (Today) \/ ---
>
>> What makes 1 more plausible than a vast, right-wing conspiracy that changes
>> vote counts across the board in every district without detection?
>> Seriously?
>>
>> OK, here are a couple hypotheses to test:
>>
>> 1) Young people are more likely to vote Democratic and are also more likely
>> to answer exit polls than older people.
>>
>> 2) People who work 60+ hours a week are more likely to vote Republican and
>> are less likely to answer exit polls than people who work fewer than 60
>> hours per week.
>>
>> 3) People without jobs are more likely to vote Democratic and are more
>> likely to answer exit polls than people with jobs.
>>
>> There are all sorts of reasons opt-out surveys are less accurate than
>> mandatory surveys. These hypotheses may have explanatory power.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> Daniel Reeves wrote:
>>> and 6% chance that republicans keep both.
>>>
>>> ... according to the prediction market at tradesports.com.
>>>
>>>
>>> Question: What do you all think of allegations that Republicans are
>>> cheating?
>>>
>>> Here's some damning evidence from the GOP itself:
>>> http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID 18
>>>
>>> From that page:
>>> "For reasons that remain unclear, Democratic voters are more likely than
>>> Republicans to agree to interview requests from pollsters."
>>>
>>> (Just to spell it out: If the exit polls favor democrats and the real
>>> polls favor republicans, there are two explanations:
>>> 1. a democratic bias in exit polls.
>>> 2. a republican bias in the real polls.
>>> What makes 1 more plausible? Seriously, how do Republicans answer that?
>>> This is scary!)
>>>
>>
>
>
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