X-Spam-Status: No -- Hits: -2.599 Required: 5 X-Spam-Summary: BAYES_00 Sender: -2.599 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from smtp.eecs.umich.edu (smtp.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.43]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0SKjNhe025616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:45:23 -0500 Received: from granny.mr.itd.umich.edu (granny.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.70]) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j0SKj8pG020941; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:45:08 -0500 Received: FROM glaurung.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (glaurung.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.181]) BY granny.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 41FAA2C1.78F93.20747 ; 28 Jan 2005 15:38:25 -0500 Received: from smith.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smith.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.213.230.90]) by glaurung.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.9.3p2/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id PAA23294; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:38:23 -0500 (EST) X-X-Sender: robfelty Æ smith.gpcc.itd.umich.edu In-Reply-To: <8d358067050128080940fd5275 Æ mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <8d358067050128080940fd5275 Æ mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 141.213.4.43 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:38:23 -0500 (EST) To: Lisa Hsu cc: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Robert Albert Felty Subject: Re: Fwd: interesting Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 Very interesting article Lisa. From my time in Germany, I noticed that their roads are also much narrower, and they have fewer traffic lights and stop signs. In fact, there are many intersections without stop signs, where the rule is "right before left", so people just slow down a bit and pay attention. Their roads also tend to be curvier. And from my friends from Germany who have driven here, they often say that driving is more stressful in Germany. I think that is because they pay more attention to what is going on, because they have to. I certainly feel safer riding a bike on the road there than here, because drivers are used to looking out for bikers, whereas they are not here. Interestingly enough, my dad complains about how people in his neighborhood don't stop at stop signs, but the fact of the matter is, why should we have to stop, if there is not inherent danger? It just wastes gas. Rob -- Robert Felty http://www-personal.umich.edu/~robfelty "Unqualified superlatives are the worst of all." On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Lisa Hsu wrote: > This is an article about rethinking road design....it's not political, > but it's about improving safety for cars, bikes, and pedestrians > alike. > > lisa > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ake4 Æ duke.edu > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:53:25 -0500 (EST) > Subject: interesting > To: Pae Wu , kana.yamaguchi Æ duke.edu, > tom.petersen Æ duke.edu, Lisa Hsu > > > http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.12/traffic.html > > >