X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=no version=3.2.0 Sender: 0.0 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l4NFww0b014770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 11:58:58 -0400 Received: from tadpole.mr.itd.umich.edu (mx.umich.edu [141.211.14.133]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4NFwseG008648; Wed, 23 May 2007 11:58:54 -0400 Received: FROM gordion.cs.bilkent.edu.tr (gordion.cs.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.21.213]) BY tadpole.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 465464B7.B86CB.28624 ; 23 May 2007 11:58:48 -0400 Received: from assos (assos [139.179.21.100]) by gordion.cs.bilkent.edu.tr (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l4NFwek4006878; Wed, 23 May 2007 18:58:40 +0300 (EEST) X-X-Sender: saranli Æ assos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <46532eb6.17cf4c70.68dd.ffffdd80SMTPIN_ADDED Æ mx.google.com> <56e157e80705221227u59a5c1eawce5c05b02711d120 Æ mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0 (2007-05-01) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90.2/3286/Wed May 23 08:11:14 2007 on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 18:57:35 +0300 (EEST) To: Robert Felty cc: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu, ian moore , Daniel Reeves , bethany soule , Clare Dibble , Christine Kapusky From: Uluc Saranli Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Death by Veganism > ... However, one must also keep in mind that comparisons between > vegetarians and meat-eaters should be made comparing average health of > vegetarians to average health of meat-eaters, and many such studies show > vegetarians to be healthier overall than omnivores. I want to point out that this argument is on logically shaky grounds since correlation does not imply causation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation). There may be numerous other reasons behind the better health of vegetarians not directly related to their diet such as their overall lifestyles, etc. Such comparisons rarely yield conclusive information about the actual causal relation between two phenomena. - Uluc