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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:45:11 -0400 (EDT)
To: Monica Stephens <mstephe &AElig email.arizona.edu>
cc: improvetheworld &AElig umich.edu
From: Daniel Reeves <dreeves &AElig umich.edu>
Subject: Re: cat-burning and godhatesfags

Thanks for the working link, Monica.

The recording industry are slimy lying bastards.
Westboro Baptist Church are hateful, intolerant but at least entirely
ingenuous bastards.

I have to side with Westboro on this one.  Just like I sided with that 
holocaust denier in Austria.  Free speech has to be defended *on 
principle* or it's pointless.


ps to Grandpa Andrew and others on the reeves-hayos list:  I of course use 
"bastard" in the sex-positive sense. :)


--- \/   FROM Monica Stephens AT 07.04.24 11:57 (Today)   \/ ---

> Have you checked the youtube link again?  "This video is no longer
> available due to a copyright claim by Warner/Chappell Music, Inc."
>
> I doubt this is due to a copyright violation--look how many other
> [better] parodies of the same song are on youtube (e.g.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2kZKI7pSHs)...  Or homemade parodies
> of michael jackson (also on the warner label) have not been removed
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_ey4v1ccA).  Perhaps Warner/Chappell
> Music just doesn't share the extremest views of the church, so they
> censored it.
>
> Nevertheless, the music video is still available at
> http://www.thesignsofthetimes.net/specialav/special.html, along with
> Westboro Baptist Church's other extremist music videos.
>
> -Monica
>
> On 4/23/07, Daniel Reeves <dreeves &AElig umich.edu> wrote:
>> We see a lot of hand-wringing over cultural and moral decay as evidenced
>> by such supposed trends as increased violence in the world.
>> 
>> Westboro Babptist Church, host of godhatesfags.com, has a laughably
>> extreme take on this, to the tune of We Are the World:
>> 
>> "God Hates the World":
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My8KxRj_Pwo
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure they're quite serious.
>> 
>> Here's the oppositive perspective from Steven Pinker, author of The
>> Language Instinct:
>> 
>> "We're Getting Nicer Every Day: A History of Violence":
>> http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/articles/media/2007_03_19_New%20Republic.pdf
>> 
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