X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.2.0-r431796 Sender: -2.2 (spamval) -- lisashoe Æ gmail.com Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id kA2F4lnw009662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:04:48 -0500 Received: from dave.mr.itd.umich.edu (mx.umich.edu [141.211.14.131]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kA2F4guv014814; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:04:42 -0500 Received: FROM wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) BY dave.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 454A08E2.67764.21225 ; 2 Nov 2006 10:04:02 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so13890wra for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:04:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LDXRHe/4yo5lKTQ7SV/pphG7+mIozuKLo5YtUEW2T1TD2R+MiAZ+D3ysKb+URUaKFRPYoQZ94Fil1WlJZE5W5KdWxb5evWrrg+I3W6lDfJ4uNBqGXYHKfeoHtz+hueYB+LVM76Nhb+lGedqkmwIA/fagOFm3Nb+BDrg5JrGKlFI= Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr792012hud.1162479839659; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.123.7 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 07:03:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8d3580670611020703wc597196id5049d2775bc100f Æ mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ff07e720611020626j1369fef8h1fb1b0f64017b195 Æ mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4181_7952914.1162479839568" References: <3F4D88A7-A906-4379-9408-7B08456393B8 Æ umich.edu> <2ff07e720611011905s67212efbp3235bb19f5530ab4 Æ mail.gmail.com> <2ff07e720611020626j1369fef8h1fb1b0f64017b195 Æ mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 141951acc0a8cc70 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0-r431796 (2006-08-16) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:03:59 -0500 To: "Clare Dibble" Cc: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: "Lisa Hsu" Subject: Re: more user-friendly archives Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 831 ------=_Part_4181_7952914.1162479839568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline as cool as searchable archives are, i'm kind of with claire on this one...i'm not particularly excited about the idea of some google search for my name to turn up some of those archives. anything we can do about that? i like the new format (nice job rob), i'm not so on board with the eminent accessibility. lisa On 11/2/06, Clare Dibble wrote: > > Rob did a nice job making sense of the last two years of conversation, but > it made me think twice about what is public about my views. Did any of you > have the same reaction? > > I believe everything I have said and my posts don't seem to be > embarrassing in any context I can currently imagine. But things can be > taken out of context. As a place to hone our ideas and a forum for free > discussion, I feel hesitant to have potential employers or dates (if this > had been around back when I was dating) or other people I might know > casually know opinions on deep and sensitive subjects without me knowing > they even found it. Bloggers seem to think sharing is the way to go, but > many others don't participate precisely because they can't control what > happens to the information once it is out in cyberspace. In the age of > google (and yahoo, Danny), is the internet a safe place to develop a social > conscience? > > Clare > > On 11/1/06, Robert Felty wrote: > > > > Danny has been keeping archives of all the improvetheworld messages > > since the beginning (almost 2 years ago now), but they have been in a > > very inaccessible format (just one big text file). Danny gave me the > > challenge of making them more accessible, so I would now like to > > point you to the new archive: > > http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld/archives > > > > Now if you would like to find something clever that one of the > > members once wrote, it should be much easier. Please let me know if > > you have any problems using it. One TODO item is to add search > > functionality, so be on the lookout for that in the not too distant > > future. > > > > Enjoy. > > > > Rob (improving improvetheworld) > > > > -- > > Robert Felty http://www-personal.umich.edu/~robfelty > > > > > > "Holy kleenex, Batman! It was right under our nose and we > > blew it!" -- Robin > > > > > > > ------=_Part_4181_7952914.1162479839568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline as cool as searchable archives are, i'm kind of with claire on this one...i'm not particularly excited about the idea of some google search for my name to turn up some of those archives.  anything we can do about that?  i like the new format (nice job rob), i'm not so on board with the eminent accessibility.

lisa

On 11/2/06, Clare Dibble <clare.dibble Æ gmail.com> wrote:
Rob did a nice job making sense of the last two years of conversation, but it made me think twice about what is public about my views.  Did any of you have the same reaction? 

I believe everything I have said and my posts don't seem to be embarrassing in any context I can currently imagine.  But things can be taken out of context.  As a place to hone our ideas and a forum for free discussion, I feel hesitant to have potential employers or dates (if this had been around back when I was dating) or other people I might know casually know opinions on deep and sensitive subjects without me knowing they even found it.  Bloggers seem to think sharing is the way to go, but many others don't participate precisely because they can't control what happens to the information once it is out in cyberspace. In the age of google (and yahoo, Danny), is the internet a safe place to develop a social conscience? 

Clare


On 11/1/06, Robert Felty <robfelty Æ umich.edu> wrote:
Danny has been keeping archives of all the improvetheworld messages
since the beginning (almost 2 years ago now), but they have been in a
very inaccessible format (just one big text file). Danny gave me the
challenge of making them more accessible, so I would now like to
point you to the new archive:
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld/archives

Now if you would like to find something clever that one of the
members once wrote, it should be much easier. Please let me know if
you have any problems using it. One TODO item is to add search
functionality, so be on the lookout for that in the not too distant
future.

Enjoy.

Rob (improving improvetheworld)

--
Robert Felty http://www-personal.umich.edu/~robfelty

"Holy kleenex, Batman! It was right under our nose and we
blew it!" -- Robin




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