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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:12:25 -0700
To: Robert Felty <robfelty &AElig umich.edu>, Andrew Reeves <andrew.reeves &AElig wayne.edu>
CC: <improvetheworld &AElig umich.edu>
From: Eva Revesz <erevesz &AElig hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: "We GAVE Israel nuclear weapons"
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Dear Rob, 
Even though you may have been technically wrong about the US giving Israel
nuclear weapons, I just want you to know that I thought your commentary on
why terrorism exists was very good and in essence, correct. I do think we
are using the band aid approach rather than getting at the heart of the
problem and I do think that the US's policy regarding nuclear proliferation
is indeed very inconsistent (and nobody would deny that, I' m sure).  I can
imagine that my dad and others of you out there are thinking with good
reason! But regardless -- it's precisely our ability as the global
powerhouse to dictate who is allowed to have nuclear weapons and who isn't
that amounts to the carte blanche vis-à-vis Israel that you, Rob, were
getting at. And would it really surprise the rest of you if it were proven
that the US had given Israel (or sold to them at a very attractive price)
nuclear weapons in the past.  It would make total sense to me  since we are,
after all, allied with Israel in the "war against terrorism."
Why would you, Dad, have a serious quarrel with that? On what grounds?

Trixie
 

Currently, I hold the position of Visiting Assistant Professor in the
Literature Department at Claremont McKenna College, where I teach two
sections of the required first-year literature and English

composition course. As much as I enjoy teaching freshman composition, I am
very eager to return to teaching German and would be especially interested
in teaching an intermediate or upper-level course.

 
Enclosed you will find my vita, two letters of recommendation, two sets of
student evaluations, a sample syllabus for an upper-level course. Should you
be interested in additional syllabi, recommendations, or student
evaluations, I would be more than happy to supply these for you. In the
hopes of hearing from you, thank you in advance for your consideration.

 
Sincerely yours,

 
Eva B. Revesz


On 8/15/06 10:06 AM, "Robert Felty" <robfelty &AElig umich.edu> wrote:

> Grandpa Andrew,
> 
> Thank you for pointing out my error. I only recently learned that
> Israel is purported to have nuclear weapons (right about the time the
> current conflict with Lebanon began). I recall mentioning this to
> someone, who informed me that the U.S. sold Israel nuclear weapons.
> Unfortunately, I do not recall who told me this, but after further
> research, I realize that this was erroneous.
> 
> I do want to point out that I was not trying to spark a debate about
> the state of Israel. I have only had to time to skim the sermon that
> you sent out Andrew, but I will hopefully find time to read it more
> carefully soon. I was only trying to use that as an example of the
> U.S.'s inconsistent foreign policy.
> 
> I did find a wealth of information about nuclear weapons in Israel.
> As far as I can tell, Israel has yet to confirm or deny whether they
> have nuclear weapons, but most intelligence sources estimate that
> Israel possesses at least several dozen weapons. I also learned that
> Israel developed their own nuclear technology, though they received a
> large amount of support from France, including nuclear materials, and
> that they have most likely received some degree of similar support
> from Britain as well. U.S. intelligence has suspected that Israel was
> developing nuclear weapons as early as the 1960's. It appears that
> the U.S. decided neither to officially support, nor attempt to stop
> Israel's nuclear program.
> 
> ------ from Wikipedia [1] (I am also providing the references that
> they have cited, but I have not read them myself)
> 
> By 1969 U.S. Defense Secretary Melvin Laird believed that Israel
> might have a nuclear weapon that year [6] [7]. Later that year U.S.
> President Nixon in a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir
> pressed Israel to "make no visible introduction of nuclear weapons or
> undertake a nuclear test program", so maintaining a policy of nuclear
> ambiguity. [8]
> ------
> 
> In conclusion, it appears that the U.S. has been inconsistent in its
> policies on nuclear proliferation. This was the point I was trying to
> make.
> 
> So, once again I would like to apologize for spewing erroneous
> information. Thank you for noticing Andrew. We don't always come to
> much concensus on this list, but I do learn quite a bit, and it is
> very rewarding to engage in discussion with people who are carefully
> reading and examining arguments, and pointing out their flaws. In the
> future, I will try to back up my claims a little better.
> 
> Rob
> 
> References (2-5 included for additional information)
> 
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_nuclear_weapons
> [2] http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
> [3] http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/index.html
> [4] http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm
> [5] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm
> [6] Israel crosses the threshold", Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists,
> May/June 2006, pp. 22-30. Retrieved on 2006-07-02.
> [7] Stopping the introduction of nuclear weapons into the middle east
> (PDF). Memorandum to the secretary of state. National Security
> Archive (1969-03-17). Retrieved on 2006-07-02.
> [8] Discussions with the Israelis on nuclear matters (PDF).
> Memorandum for the President. National Security Archive (1969-10-07).
> Retrieved on 2006-07-02.
> 
> On Aug 15, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Andrew Reeves wrote:
> 
>> The above quotation (emphasis in the original) is certainly one of the
>> more amazing assertions that came out in this debate. I assume "We"
>> means the USA. What evidence exists to support this assertion? Who
>> said
>> that originally, and in what media? Under which administration was it
>> supposed to have occurred? I am asking these questions quite sincerely
>> but should the answer be that the assertion is self-explanatory I
>> would
>> have a serious quarrel with that.
>>                                   --Danny's Grandpa Andrew
>> 
>> 
> 
>