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To: James W Mickens <jmickens &AElig eecs.umich.edu>
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From: Daniel Reeves <dreeves &AElig umich.edu>
Subject: Re: stupid feel-good "no liquids" rule
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Quick straw poll on the whiteboard about this:
   http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld/

--- \/   FROM Daniel Reeves AT 06.08.14 13:27 (Today)   \/ ---

>> that these measures do "just about nothing" for safety ascribes too much 
>> cleverness to the standard terrorist and ignores the common modes for 
>> terrorist attacks;
>
> I'm not talking about those measure!  I'm talking about the no liquids rule. 
> I'm telling you that any idiot can stroll through security with a bottle of 
> liquid in their pocket (I know this from experience) and *that's* what makes 
> this rule stupid.
>
>

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