X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.0-r372567 Sender: -4.4 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k7DIKtnw006004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:20:55 -0400 Received: from dave.mr.itd.umich.edu (dave.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.70]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7DIKrEF027833; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:20:53 -0400 Received: FROM smtp.eecs.umich.edu (smtp.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.43]) BY dave.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 44DF6D82.1E61C.11575 ; 13 Aug 2006 14:20:50 -0400 Received: from mail.eecs.umich.edu (mail.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.15]) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7DIKnAg008299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:20:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c-24-11-194-131.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [24.11.194.131]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id k7DIKmtR024269 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: <44DF6DE6.1010203 Æ umich.edu> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0-r372567 (2006-01-26) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:22:30 -0400 To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Brian Magerko Subject: Re: stupid feel-good "no liquids" rule Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 672 Daniel Reeves wrote: > My mom and I argued about this today. I'm on a plane right now and > here are my thoughts: > > If you wanted to get a liquid on a plane you would just put it in a > ziplock bag in a square container and that would pass through the > x-ray without raising an eyebrow, or just leave bottles of stuff right > in your pockets -- no alarms will go off as you stroll through the > metal detector. Or print a fake prescription label (they have an > exception for prescriptions). These measures will foil the terrorists > who are sophisticated enough to acquire liquid explosives but not > sophisticated enough to get some liquid through security (something, > incidentally, I just did without trying). If you still think (this is > directed at you, Mom) we've got to "at least try", how about this: do > brain scans of passengers and reject those who are thinking about > blowing up a plane. Sure, we can't detect that in a brain scan and if > we could terrorists could circumvent it by thinking about kittens, but > my god, we've to to at least try! > > Thus is my rant. The TSA is stupid. > > Danny > > PS, seriously, any idiot can get liquids through security. I'm a case > in point. Oh, and same goes for pocket-knives, to a lesser extent. Here is a blog post that perfectly summarizes my feeling on this whole thing: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/13/defending_against_th.html In short, we better start changing the world around us to make it a better place, keep people out of poverty, quit resorting to violence to solve problems, etc. etc. etc. because there are enough terrorist targets to keep them busy for years to come. For example, why not just walk into an airport and blow up everyone waiting in line at security & the ticket counters? B-