X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.0-r372567 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k7DIHFnw005888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:17:16 -0400 Received: from ghostbusters.mr.itd.umich.edu (ghostbusters.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.93.144]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7DIHEdv027497; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:17:14 -0400 Received: FROM newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) BY ghostbusters.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 44DF6CA6.C4472.25888 ; 13 Aug 2006 14:17:10 -0400 Received: from boston.eecs.umich.edu (boston.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.61]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7DIH9o7027476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:17:09 -0400 Received: from boston.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k7DIH8nw005884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:17:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (dreeves Æ localhost) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id k7DIH8jX005881 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:17:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: boston.eecs.umich.edu: dreeves owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: dreeves Æ boston.eecs.umich.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0-r372567 (2006-01-26) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:17:08 -0400 (EDT) To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Daniel Reeves Subject: stupid feel-good "no liquids" rule Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 671 My mom and I argued about this today. I'm on a plane right now and here are my thoughts: If you wanted to get a liquid on a plane you would just put it in a ziplock bag in a square container and that would pass through the x-ray without raising an eyebrow, or just leave bottles of stuff right in your pockets -- no alarms will go off as you stroll through the metal detector. Or print a fake prescription label (they have an exception for prescriptions). These measures will foil the terrorists who are sophisticated enough to acquire liquid explosives but not sophisticated enough to get some liquid through security (something, incidentally, I just did without trying). If you still think (this is directed at you, Mom) we've got to "at least try", how about this: do brain scans of passengers and reject those who are thinking about blowing up a plane. Sure, we can't detect that in a brain scan and if we could terrorists could circumvent it by thinking about kittens, but my god, we've to to at least try! Thus is my rant. The TSA is stupid. Danny PS, seriously, any idiot can get liquids through security. I'm a case in point. Oh, and same goes for pocket-knives, to a lesser extent. -- http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - search://"Daniel Reeves" "I'm on a seafood diet -- I see food and I eat it."