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i once read an article positing that it might be a good idea to have
these like....medical grand juries to decide whether a suit should go
through.  like grab a bunch of doctors to sit on the medical grand
jury, and they can decide whether the suit is frivolous.  a lot of
suits currently happen just because the patient didn't come out as
good as new, which is actually impossible to achieve 100% of the time
no matter how good the doctor is.  so a jury of doctors can determine
whether the doctor in question was negligent or not.  what do you guys
think?  i thought it sounded pretty interesting.


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:44:29 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Karen
Conneely <conneely &AElig umich.edu> wrote:
> Yeah, but it's a slippery slope - how do you differentiate the frivolous
> lawsuits from the very justified ones?  Knowing that 1) there are companies
> out there that hire actuaries to calculate the risk of death associated
> with a defective product and to do cost-benefit analyses that figure in
> the cost of lawsuits and settlements, and _then_ decide whether or not to
> recall the product, and 2) in addition to all the caring doctors out there
> who just want to do good, there are doctors who take a cavalier attitude
> towards their patients (one of my friends nearly died because the surgeon
> who did his appendectomy was drunk) - well, knowing these things makes me
> want to set the caps on damages paid even higher rather than reducing
> them.  If they can really find a way to weed out the frivolous ones that
> won't hurt the people who actually have just cause to sue, fine.  But I'd
> much rather see McDonalds get sued once in awhile for something stupid
> than to see people being hurt and killed because the monetary incentive to
> prevent it wasn't high enough.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Dave morris wrote:
> 
> > I don't know, this list sounds a little too right wing for me. :-)
> >
> > Here's a challenge- what are the good things that will come out of the
> > Republicans owning the government for four years? Anyone can come up with a
> > litany of bad things, I challenge people to list the pros as well. I'll
> > start:
> >
> > An actual chance of litigation reform for the medical and possibly other
> > industries.
> >
> > Sure- it will largely benefit big businesses and the rich at first because
> > those are the lawsuits they'll target, but I do agree that litigation has
> > become way too rampant and core to our society in all strata in a way that's
> > dragging us all down. Starting to pull away from that, implementing real
> > consequences for frivolous laws suits etc., could be worth quite a bit.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2004, at 6:21 PM, Daniel Reeves wrote:
> >
> >> I'm creating a new mailing list for discussion of how to improve the world
> >> (primarily bitching about Bush a while longer till we reach catharsis on
> >> that one).  There are just a few key people on it so far, but I made a web
> >> page to get on or off, if you want to start spreading the word...
> >>
> >> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
> >>
> >>
> >> And while I'm at it:
> >>
> >>  What Do You Think?
> >>  The Republican Majority
> >>
> >> Last week, Bush became the first Republican president to be re-elected
> >> with House and Senate majorities since 1924. What do you think?
> >>
> >>      "So they still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office? Well,
> >> at least we still have the smug, condescending attitude that cost us the
> >> election in the first place."
> >>  Beverly Banks
> >>  Systems Analyst
> >>                                      "Our nation may be bitterly divided,
> >> but at least our government
> >> can agree on being ultra-conservative."
> >>  Edgar Mendez
> >>  Data Keyer
> >>
> >>      "What's so bad about this? Could some Democrat explain it to me in
> >> under an hour, without starting to scream or cry?"
> >>  Sam Howell
> >>  Credit Checker
> >>              "The fact that 48 percent of Americans voted for a boring
> >> placeholder like John Kerry is actually a really good sign for the Left."
> >>  Leo Watts
> >>  Custom Tailor
> >>      -----
> >>
> >> Bush Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time
> >>  WASHINGTON, DC--A week after winning a narrow victory over Democratic
> >> presidential nominee John Kerry, President Bush promised to "unite the
> >> divided nation, but for real this time." "Just as I pledged in 2000, I
> >> promise to bring the two halves of this nation together--only this time
> >> I'm really gonna do it," Bush said Tuesday. "I'll work hard to put an end
> >> to partisan politics. Seriously, though. This term, I will." Bush then
> >> requested the support of all Americans for his agenda of cutting taxes and
> >> extending America's presence in Iraq.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves  - -  google://"Daniel Reeves"
> >>
> >>
> > Dave Morris
> > University of Michigan EM PhD candidate, aka thecat &AElig umich.edu, aka KB8PWY
> > home: 734-995-5525  office (2104 SPRL): 734-763-5357  fax: 734-763-5567
> > Electrodynamic Applications Incorporated
> > phone: (734) 786-1434 fax: (734) 786-3235
> > morris &AElig edapplications.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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