X-Spam-Status: No -- Hits: -1.665 Required: 5 X-Spam-Summary: BAYES_00 Sender: -1.665 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from smtp.eecs.umich.edu (smtp.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.43]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iA9GohHF011192 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:50:44 -0500 Received: from fate.mr.itd.umich.edu (fate.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.75]) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iA9GobZF025740; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:50:37 -0500 Received: FROM reformers.mr.itd.umich.edu (reformers.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.93.147]) BY fate.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4190F37B.703BA.21428 ; 9 Nov 2004 11:42:35 -0500 Received: from 2004-0034.sph.umich.edu (host51-132.sph.umich.edu [141.211.51.132]) by reformers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp) with ESMTP id iA9GgZe6027591; Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:42:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <91B70C5E-326C-11D9-BC57-000A95DA4C4C Æ umich.edu> Message-ID: References: <91B70C5E-326C-11D9-BC57-000A95DA4C4C Æ umich.edu> X-X-Sender: conneely Æ mail.umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="4412444-18368-1100018669=:320" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:44:29 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) To: Dave morris cc: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Karen Conneely Subject: Re: improving the world Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --4412444-18368-1100018669=:320 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Yeah, but it's a slippery slope - how do you differentiate the frivolous=20 lawsuits from the very justified ones? Knowing that 1) there are companies= =20 out there that hire actuaries to calculate the risk of death associated=20 with a defective product and to do cost-benefit analyses that figure in=20 the cost of lawsuits and settlements, and _then_ decide whether or not to= =20 recall the product, and 2) in addition to all the caring doctors out there= =20 who just want to do good, there are doctors who take a cavalier attitude=20 towards their patients (one of my friends nearly died because the surgeon= =20 who did his appendectomy was drunk) - well, knowing these things makes me= =20 want to set the caps on damages paid even higher rather than reducing=20 them. If they can really find a way to weed out the frivolous ones that=20 won't hurt the people who actually have just cause to sue, fine. But I'd= =20 much rather see McDonalds get sued once in awhile for something stupid=20 than to see people being hurt and killed because the monetary incentive to= =20 prevent it wasn't high enough. On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Dave morris wrote: > I don't know, this list sounds a little too right wing for me. :-) > > Here's a challenge- what are the good things that will come out of the=20 > Republicans owning the government for four years? Anyone can come up with= a=20 > litany of bad things, I challenge people to list the pros as well. I'll= =20 > start: > > An actual chance of litigation reform for the medical and possibly other= =20 > industries. > > Sure- it will largely benefit big businesses and the rich at first becaus= e=20 > those are the lawsuits they'll target, but I do agree that litigation has= =20 > become way too rampant and core to our society in all strata in a way tha= t's=20 > dragging us all down. Starting to pull away from that, implementing real= =20 > consequences for frivolous laws suits etc., could be worth quite a bit. > > Dave > > On Nov 8, 2004, at 6:21 PM, Daniel Reeves wrote: > >> I'm creating a new mailing list for discussion of how to improve the wor= ld >> (primarily bitching about Bush a while longer till we reach catharsis on >> that one). There are just a few key people on it so far, but I made a w= eb >> page to get on or off, if you want to start spreading the word... >>=20 >> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld >>=20 >>=20 >> And while I'm at it: >>=20 >> What Do You Think? >> The Republican Majority >>=20 >> Last week, Bush became the first Republican president to be re-elected >> with House and Senate majorities since 1924. What do you think? >>=20 >> =09"So they still control the House, Senate, and Oval Office? Well, >> at least we still have the smug, condescending attitude that cost us the >> election in the first place." >> Beverly Banks >> Systems Analyst >> =09=09=09=09=09"Our nation may be bitterly divided,=20 >> but at least our government >> can agree on being ultra-conservative." >> Edgar Mendez >> Data Keyer >>=20 >> =09"What's so bad about this? Could some Democrat explain it to me in >> under an hour, without starting to scream or cry?" >> Sam Howell >> Credit Checker >> =09=09"The fact that 48 percent of Americans voted for a boring >> placeholder like John Kerry is actually a really good sign for the Left.= " >> Leo Watts >> Custom Tailor >> =09----- >>=20 >> Bush Promises To Unite Nation For Real This Time >> WASHINGTON, DC--A week after winning a narrow victory over Democratic >> presidential nominee John Kerry, President Bush promised to "unite the >> divided nation, but for real this time." "Just as I pledged in 2000, I >> promise to bring the two halves of this nation together--only this time >> I'm really gonna do it," Bush said Tuesday. "I'll work hard to put an en= d >> to partisan politics. Seriously, though. This term, I will." Bush then >> requested the support of all Americans for his agenda of cutting taxes a= nd >> extending America's presence in Iraq. >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves" >>=20 >>=20 > Dave Morris > University of Michigan EM PhD candidate, aka thecat Æ umich.edu, aka KB8PWY > home: 734-995-5525 office (2104 SPRL): 734-763-5357 fax: 734-763-5567 > Electrodynamic Applications Incorporated > phone: (734)=A0786-1434 fax: (734)=A0786-3235 > morris Æ edapplications.com > > > > --4412444-18368-1100018669=:320--