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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:52:49 -0500 (EST)
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From: Daniel Reeves <dreeves &AElig umich.edu>
Subject: victoria goes on record
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Victoria said I could forward this if i thought it spamworthy.  I hope=20
this inspires more of you to speak up!

           http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld/

  -- From: Victoria Li Fossum <vfossum &AElig eecs.umich.edu> --

Yes, I'm in favor of the equal rights amendment.

And fine, I'll go on the record stating that I'm the same kind of feminist
as Simone de Beauvoir and Catharine Mackinnon, which wikipedia informs me
is "radical feminism".  And I'll also go on the record stating that "not a
feminist but not *not* a feminist" is not an answer (and also not *not* an
answer....)

-V

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Daniel Reeves wrote:

> There's been quite a backlash against my feminism poll.  I'm delighted
> that my mom joined me in the hardcore liberal feminist camp.  But, based
> on private responses from many of you, far too many people are just not
> willing to call themselves feminists and I see this as a big problem.
>
> First, there's mass misconception about the whole concept of Labels.
> Labels are necessary and highly useful. People need something to identify
> with and rally around. There can't be a feminist movement without the
> label "feminism"!
>
> How bout a new poll:  Do think the Equal Rights Amendment [1] should be
> ratified?  reply (simple yes or no is fine) to me privately and I'll
> compile the results.
>
>
> [1] google it.
>
> --- \/   FROM Daniel Reeves AT 05.11.04 11:41 (Yesterday)   \/ ---
>
>> thanks Michelle (and Kevin for the reference).
>> I updated my Label here
>>  http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
>> if anyone else wants to join me now...  (Rob? Michelle?)
>>
>> This is from the wikipedia entry for Liberal Feminism (definitely what I
>> am):
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_feminism
>>
>>    The goal of liberal feminism in the United States was embodied in the
>> Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which was never ratifie=
d. It
>> said, "Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged =
by
>> the United States or any state on account of sex." -- Judith Lorber Gend=
er
>> Inequality: Feminist Theories and Politics, Second Edition
>>
>>
>> --- \/   FROM mjste &AElig umich.edu AT 05.11.04 08:04 (Today)   \/ ---
>>
>>> danny,just a quick clarification.....you say that you are a hard-core
>>> radical feminist.=A0 from what i know about feminism, you probably
>>> aren't a radical feminist.=A0 radical feminism emerged as a response to
>>> liberal feminism, which tried to obtain equality between men and women
>>> in job spheres, home spheres, etc.=A0 it argues for a somewhat
>>> separatist notion of female, almost essentializing women.=A0 women are
>>> inherently more compassionate, possess nurturing capacities distinct
>>> from men, draw power from sisterhood and solidarity.=A0 it implicitly
>>> calls into question the need for men.=A0 i would think of radical
>>> feminists to be andrea dwarkin and catherine mckinnon (all sex is
>>> rape, she argues).=A0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:15 AM, Daniel Reeves wrote:
>>> Quick show of hands for your basic attitude towards feminism (and
>>> also I'm curious who all is reading along)?
>>> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
>>> Don't forget to hit submit on the whiteboard.=A0 If you don't know what
>>> that means, just read the poll at the link above and email me your
>>> (ideally one-word) response.
>>> Thanks y'all!Danny
>>> --=A0http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves=A0 - -=A0 google://"Daniel
>>> Reeves"
>>>
>>> Michelle SternthalJoint Doctoral Program in Sociology & Public
>>> PolicyUniversity of Michigan734-709-6650 (cell)mjste &AElig umich.edu
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves  - -  google://"Daniel Reeves"
>
> Withhold not correction from the child;
> For though thou beat him with the rod, he will not die.
> Thou beatest him with the rod,
> And wilt deliver his soul from the nether-world.
> --Proverbs, 23:13.  (submitted by Mark Skandera, 2002-12-10)
>
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