X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jA47sfS8012689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:54:42 -0500 Received: from dave.mr.itd.umich.edu (dave.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.70]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.2/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA47scjY032197; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:54:38 -0500 Received: FROM boston.eecs.umich.edu (boston.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.61]) BY dave.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 436B13BC.A2F85.17672 ; 4 Nov 2005 02:54:36 -0500 Received: from boston.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jA47sZS8012683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:54:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (dreeves Æ localhost) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id jA47sZBr012680; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:54:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: boston.eecs.umich.edu: dreeves owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: dreeves Æ boston.eecs.umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20051102185253.20936.qmail Æ web81912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:54:35 -0500 (EST) To: "David Morris, PhD" cc: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Daniel Reeves Subject: Re: feminsm, masculinism, and anti-stereotypism revisited Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 263 > 50/50 is a pretty random number that I doubt nature has any reason to > have designed us for. not so! it's exactly the ratio we'd expect if males and females are not biologically different w.r.t. the salient metric (child-rearing, CEOing). Erica is making the case for 50/50 as the right answer to Dave's question (or as she said, that at least it's an open question). But Dave's point (similar to Lisa's) is also well made: so what if it's not 50/50? Whatever it is, we have a ways to go. -- http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves"