X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, WHY_WAIT autolearn=no version=3.1.0 Sender: -2.0 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j94Lx2BN017019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:59:02 -0400 Received: from madman.mr.itd.umich.edu (madman.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.75]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.2/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j94Lx1is023813; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:59:01 -0400 Received: FROM boston.eecs.umich.edu (boston.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.61]) BY madman.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4342FB23.64433.3780 ; 4 Oct 2005 17:58:59 -0400 Received: from boston.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j94LwrBN017017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:58:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (dreeves Æ localhost) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id j94LwrYF017014; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:58:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: boston.eecs.umich.edu: dreeves owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: dreeves Æ boston.eecs.umich.edu In-Reply-To: <8d3580670510041416n60a6fc38y2772b1a1411318cb Æ mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <8d3580670510041416n60a6fc38y2772b1a1411318cb Æ mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:58:53 -0400 (EDT) To: Lisa Hsu cc: Kevin Lochner , improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Daniel Reeves Subject: Re: Fw: Social Security Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 209 eep, thanks Lisa! I'm really embarrassed I didn't snopes that before responding. it seems to be a pretty good rule of thumb that any email that instructs you to forward it is bogus. --- \/ FROM Lisa Hsu AT 05.10.04 17:16 (Today) \/ --- > somehow, that just seemed very fishy and so i googled "congress pension" and > this is what i got: > > http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa031200a.htm > and > http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp > > it just seemed a little impossible. > > > on another note - in my search for something else, i came across this, which > makes me cheerful (ha): > > http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=509697 > > > > On 10/4/05, Kevin Lochner wrote: > > > > > > just a little something to provoke govt irritation . . . > > > > ----- > > > > > > WHY WAIT UNTIL 2008? THERE IS AN ELECTION IN 2006. ARE YOU INTERESTED IN > > FIRMLY STATING THAT YOU WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY POLITICIAN, REGARDLESS OF THE > > OTHER ISSUES, IF HE DOES NOT SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATION. > > THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE STANDING FOR ELECTION IN 2006. > > > > > > LET US SHOW OUR LEADERS IN WASHINGTON "PEOPLE POWER" AND THE POWER OF THE > > INTERNET. LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE WITH ME ON THIS BY FORWARDING TO EVERYONE > > IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. > > > > > > IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT! > > > > KEEP IT GOING!!!! > > > > 2008 Election Issue!! > > > > GET A BILL STARTED TO PLACE ALL POLITICIANS ON SOC. SEC. > > > > > > This must be an issue in "2008" Please! Keep it going. > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > SOCIAL SECURITY: > > > > Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. > > > > Our Senators and Congresswomen do not pay into Social Security and, of > > course, they do not collect from it. > > > > You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their > > rare elevation in society.They felt they should have a special plan< > > /SPAN> for themselves. So, many years ago they voted in their "own" benefit > > plan. > > > > In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. > > After all, it is a great plan. > > > > For all practical purposes their plan works like this: > > When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die. > > > > Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. > > > > For example, Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect > > to draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Eight-Hundred Thousand > > Dollars), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of > > their lives. > > > > This is calculated on an average life span for each of those two > > Dignitaries. > > > > > > Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will receive much more > > during the rest of their lives. > > > > Their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. NADA....ZILCH.... > > > > This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick > > up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come > > directly from the General Funds; > > > > "OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"! > > > > From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) > > into, - every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our > > employer)-we can expect to get an average of $1,000 per month after > > retirement. > > Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly > > benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal "Senator" Bill Bradley's > > benefits! > > > > > > > > > > Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made. > > > > That change would be to: > > > > > > Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and > > Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us > > > > > > then sit back..... > > > > > > and see how fast they would fix it! > > > > If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted > > and maybe good changes will evolve. > > > > How many people > > CAN you send this to? > > > > Better yet..... > > > > > > How many people WILL you send this to ? > > > > > > Never give up, even when the odds are stacked against you and you feel > > that > > there is no hope. You can never have "No" or "Can't" or "Won't" in your > > heart, > > better yet, keep it out of your vocabulary. Have faith in yourself, even > > when > > no one else seems to, and when your faith is lacking, remember those that > > have faith in you no matter what. > > > > - David A. McNally - > > > > > > > -- http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves" "Helmet laws are bad for the gene pool." -- Bicycling Magazine