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Subject: Re: devotion to islam linked to support of terrorism
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More than the number of anti-bombing mullahs.  My suspicion after reading the
article, though, is that the correlation in Palestine is quite strong.  I do
agree with Danny that the headline was quite misleading, as was, of 
course, his
subject line...  The study really only focused on one indicator of private
worship (frequency of prayers) and one indicator of public worship (frequency
of mosque attendance). I get the impression from reading a variety of sources
that mullahs in the PA (palestinian authority) range between 
"understanding" to
openly supportive of terrorism, though few may actually recruit people for it.
The story would certainly be different in a place like Ann Arbor, though,
again, I get the impression that there are not very many tears shed over
innocent Israelis dying in terrorist attacks.

In any case, the important distinction made in the study between public and
private worship does make the results much clearer (and fills me with some
optimism). Particularly, it does empirically reinforce (for me) something I've
already believed: that Mulsim religious leaders are a significant part of the
problem. Of course, all the obvious qualifications of this statement 
apply. But
it also means that if those religious leaders who oppose it become more
outspoken and more numerous, the balance may well shift, and shift quickly.

Eugene

Quoting Kevin Lochner <klochner &AElig eecs.umich.edu>:

> how many pro-bombing mullah's would it really take to effect a positive
> correlation?
>
> - kevin
>
>
> "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."
> -- G.W. Bush, --Reuters, May 5, 2000 (Thanks to Allison Fansler.)
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Erica O'Connor wrote:
>
>> Given that this study is even ligitimate, sounds like
>> it found something not all that surprising, namely,
>> sitting around the house being devout isn't as
>> inspiring to a would-be-suicide-terrorist-supporter as
>> going to a big religious gathering of like-minded
>> individuals every day.
>> -Erica
>> Quote included to to please Daniel anyway:
>> "Man will not be free until the last king is strangled
>> with the entrails of the last priest."
>> -by I forget who, Diderot?
>>
>>
>> --- Daniel Reeves <dreeves &AElig umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not thinking about much else but thesis for next
>> > several weeks but
>> > this just struck me as amusing.  My (cynical) take
>> > is that a study linked
>> > religiosity to terrorism and then they decided that
>> > wasn't so PC so they
>> > found some obscure religiosity metric that they
>> > failed to correlate with
>> > terrorism and used that as the headline to make it
>> > sound like they found
>> > the opposite of what they really found.  Or more
>> > likely the whole study's
>> > just BS.  Ok, I'm going back in my hole now.
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: U-M News Service
>> > <dev.ARO.MichToday.emailreturn &AElig umich.edu>
>> > Subject: Michigan Today NewsE - June 2005
>> >
>> > UofM News
>> >
>> > If you have trouble reading this email please visit:
>> > http://www.umich.edu/NewsE/ June 2005
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> > Personal devotion to Islam is unrelated to support
>> > for suicide bombing
>> > among Palestinian Muslims, according to a study at
>> > the Institute for
>> > Social Research. But the more often Muslims attended
>> > mosques, the more
>> > likely they were to support suicide terrorism.
>> > (Islamic text image, from
>> > U-M Museum of Art.)
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>