X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.2 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l86FjFux002294 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:45:15 -0400 Received: from madman.mr.itd.umich.edu (mx.umich.edu [141.211.14.134]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l86FihnK004116; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:44:43 -0400 Received: FROM smtp.eecs.umich.edu (smtp.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.43]) BY madman.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 46E02073.68859.32594 ; 6 Sep 2007 11:44:51 -0400 Received: from [141.212.108.94] (hactar.eecs.umich.edu [141.212.108.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l86Fimd8022643 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:44:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <582561.78990.qm Æ web81906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2ff07e720709051135y423738cci55b2cdcbb5a6aac0 Æ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1189093182.28315.51.camel Æ hactar> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on smtp.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.2 (2007-07-23) on newman.eecs.umich.edu Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:39:42 -0400 To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: Erik Talvitie Subject: Re: candidate calculator > According to yootles.com/candicalc we are overwhelmingly in favor of > Kucinich, as are (to a lesser extent) the other 150,000 people who > answered those same questions. The selectsmart page (linked to at the top > of yootles.com/candicalc) says I like Ron Paul the best. Here's the thing about these calculators: they seem to assume that your ideal candidate is...you. To me, that's kind of an odd place to start from. I mean, obviously it is true that I take the political positions I take because I believe if the government were to take the same positions, we'd be a better nation for it. That said, I fully recognize that if I could perform a government transplant and replace our current one with one that agreed with me on every issue, we'd have a big problem on our hands. Because *most* people don't agree with me on at least some issue that is really important to them, and everything would just grid to a halt. So really I'd much rather have a government that most people can get along with, but one that is walking in my direction and bringing the nation with it. So when both calculators tell me Kucinich is the best candidate for me (yootles: 58, selectsmart: 98), I can see where they're coming from. I *like* Kucinich. I like what we has to say and I love to hear him speak. I think he's the most legitimately liberal candidate in the field. And that's why I would never vote for him. He can't even sell his platform to moderate dems, let alone die-hard conservatives. If he managed to magically get to the oval office, he'd be a complete waste of time. He'd never get anything done because no congressperson (democrat or republican) who wanted to get re-elected could have anything to do with him. The same goes for Gravel and Paul too, as far as I'm concerned. They all have great ideas for the Perfect America but they give no indication that they will be able to put that agenda aside and work with the contentious, confused, inertial country we've got right now. We've just suffered through 8 years of an ideological, bull-headed president who knows what's best for everyone, despite abysmal approval ratings. I don't want a repeat, even if I share the ideology this time around. So when I'm looking at candidates, I'm not looking for the one that is the best reflection of me, I'm looking for the one that will best champion my overall values to everyone else. I'd like the candidate who is most likely to be able to convince the nation as a whole that a couple of steps to the left ("and then a jump to the ri-i-i-i-ight!") in our policies will do us all some good. Even though I don't agree with them issue for issue (and even on some issues that are really important to me) I actually think the Democratic front-runners are probably the best we've got using that criterion (and maybe Biden too, if he could just gain some traction). Just my 2 pyoonies. Erik