X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=no version=3.2.2 Sender: -1.9 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l846Tqux026776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:29:52 -0400 Received: from anniehall.mr.itd.umich.edu (mx.umich.edu [141.211.176.130]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l846TGrK008431 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:29:23 -0400 Received: FROM edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.27]) BY anniehall.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 46DCFB3F.7E361.914 ; 4 Sep 2007 02:29:19 -0400 Received: from edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l846TW3d023001; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:29:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (jmickens Æ localhost) by edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l846TWIf022998; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:29:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.2 (2007-07-23) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:29:32 -0400 (EDT) To: Daniel Reeves cc: Dave Morris , improvetheworld Æ umich.edu, reeves-hayos Æ umich.edu, reeves-kalkman Æ umich.edu From: James W Mickens Subject: Re: mind the gap > But at least we're all (except probably Trixie) agreed that the very > fact of having a lot of wealth is not harming any poor people, except > perhaps in some very indirect way along the lines Michelle proposed. And > even then I don't think the studies Michelle cited point to an income > gap as a *cause* of poorer health, just a correlation. I am not in agreement ;-). I believe that skewed wealth distributions can be *directly* harmful to poor people. I think that as an individual accumulates wealth, the utility accrued from every additional dollar decreases. For example, the additional utility that a billionaire gets from buying her fifth yacht is much smaller than the additional utility that a poor person gets from having medicine to cure malaria. Thus, skewed wealth distributions can have a pernicious impact on net utility. As I mentioned in my previous post, some amount of skewedness may be necessary to encourage the talented or the industrious to work for the benefit us of all. However, there reaches a tipping point at which this inequality starts to generate negative aggregate utility. This phenomenon is causal, not correlational---the accumulation of negative aggregate utility is a direct consequence of the diminishing utility return for wealth accumulation. ~j p.s. > > If Graham includes social injustice in his exceptions list, then I > > suppose that he and I are in agreement. > > He concedes at least one such social injustice (differing access to > educational opportunities) in footnote 16. This is the type of focus inversion that I'm talking about! If you want to write about the impact of income inequality, then "Social Injustice" should be the name of a chapter in your book, and "The Ultimate Fairness of Income Inequality in the Absence of Such Barriers" should be a footnote, not the other way around. I would be much less infuriated by Graham's essay if he used the rhetorical framework of "here's how it should work, here's how it actually works." For example, I'd be fine with the following setup: "In an ideal economy in which everyone has equal access to opportunity and information, an individual is largely in control of her income, being free to interact with supply and demand as she chooses. However, due to certain unfortunate realities of modern society, wealth is distributed not only according to talent and industriousness, but according to a priori sociological factors over which individuals sometimes have little control." Instead of using this approach, Graham essentially gives us an apologetic for wealth inequality, telling us how such skew may have been a troublesome sign in the past, but that now, due to recent trends in technology, such inequality is a "sign of health" which axiomatically indicates an improvement in society's welfare. I don't believe it. In general, the wealth-equals-welfare camp reminds me of creationists who conflate "exists" with "was created" and then proceed to show that everything that exists must have been created by a Creator because things that exist must, by definition, have been created. I think that Graham and the other wealth-equals-welfare economists are engaged in the same type of semantic indirection. Net wealth does not equal net welfare. These are two separate concepts. The equivalence between them must be demonstrated, not declared by fiat.