X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.2 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l7O52ond021207 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:02:50 -0400 Received: from anniehall.mr.itd.umich.edu (mx.umich.edu [141.211.176.130]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7O52C71008420 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:02:22 -0400 Received: FROM newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) BY anniehall.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 46CE664A.AFFC5.17483 ; 24 Aug 2007 01:02:02 -0400 Received: from boston.eecs.umich.edu (boston.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.61]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l7O51Xki008348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:01:33 -0400 Received: from boston.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l7O51qnd021150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:01:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (dreeves Æ localhost) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id l7O51pIV021147; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:01:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: boston.eecs.umich.edu: dreeves owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: dreeves Æ boston.eecs.umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4CE28F9E-2B6E-4834-B3FA-1C3FBF2E7341 Æ umich.edu> <02548635-1F0E-4244-847D-8FA54DACAD4B Æ umich.edu> <1acf35a70708221835o75734aa2waa72f00b69632a18 Æ mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.2 (2007-07-23) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:01:51 -0400 (EDT) To: Rob Felty cc: Kevin Lochner , Dave Morris , improvetheworld Æ umich.edu, Steven Reeves , reeves-hayos Æ umich.edu, reeves-kalkman Æ umich.edu From: Daniel Reeves Subject: Re: mind the gap Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1048 > NASA, as a government agency, has the freedom to set goals 10 or 20 > years in the future. Would this be possible for a publicly-traded company? I > would say no. Yahoo has a world-class research lab in which scientists are paid to write academic papers. That's pretty long-term thinking. > I also agree with Kevin that taxing estates makes sense. To the extent that it's necessary to forcibly [1] collect taxes from people, I would agree. But I don't view it as an intrinsically Good Thing to tell people who they can and can't give their stuff to. I don't buy the silver spoon argument for inheritance tax. Agreed that it's a huge advantage to start life with a lot of money and parents, if they wanted to maximize fairness, would spread their money around to help other kids as well as their own. But to force parents to do that? I think lurking behind support for inheritance tax is, for some people (not many improvetheworlders), the Daddy Model of Wealth. Then again, better to be forced to do something when I'm dead than when I'm alive. I think people should try to spend most of their money before they die anyway. > I also agree with the point Eugene made about social welfare. If we give > poor people some money for doing nothing, it tends to decrease crime and > make everyone's lives more enjoyable, and is probably cheaper in the long > run than not giving them anything, them turning into criminals, and then > having to erect more jails. Theoretically, it is wrong to give people money > for nothing, but practically, it seems like the better alternative. Fair enough. It's kind of like blackmail though. "Give me stuff or I'll steal it." But, yes, I'm enough of a pragmatist to be fine with a generous social safety net. I agree that severance packages for CEOs are stupid. [1] It doesn't seem forcible since we generally pay up peacefully. But if you don't you're bodily hauled off to jail. -- http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - search://"Daniel Reeves" "I like work; it fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours." -- Jerome K. Jerome