X-Spam-Status: No -- Hits: -1.05 Required: 5 X-Spam-Summary: BAYES_00,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART,NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_BY_IP,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Sender: -1.05 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from smtp.eecs.umich.edu (smtp.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.43]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBOBtthe018655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:55:56 -0500 Received: from granny.mr.itd.umich.edu (granny.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.70]) by smtp.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iBOBtlEB013245; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:55:47 -0500 Received: FROM rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) BY granny.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 41CC021A.74D2B.8304 ; 24 Dec 2004 06:48:42 -0500 Received: from 204.127.197.111 ([204.127.197.111]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004122411484101500r8su0e>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:48:41 +0000 Received: from [201.3.16.226] by 204.127.197.111; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:48:40 +0000 Message-Id: <122420041148.21810.41CC02180005AB6B0000553222007374780E029A090EB401AB Æ comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 22 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: VG9MYWd1bmFAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21810_1103888920_0" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 141.213.4.43 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:48:40 +0000 To: Daniel Reeves , improvetheworld Æ umich.edu Cc: Nicole Poellet , pwu61556 Æ comcast.net, Sarah Nuss-Warren From: ToLaguna Æ comcast.net Subject: Re: 9/11 and gay marriage Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21810_1103888920_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Danny, Agree with you 1000%! George -------------- Original message -------------- > After 9/11, Jerry Falwell said on the 700 Club (1 million viewers per > day): > > "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the > feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make > that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all > of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their > face and say 'you helped this happen.'" > > The host, Pat Roberts, agreed and prayed for the de-secularization of the > United States government as our best protection against terrorism. > > I bring this up again because I strongly feel that *that* is the root > cause of what is wrong in this country [1]. > > What do 9/11 and gay marriage bans have in common? Religious > fundamentalism. > > Let's keep pointing this out until people start to feel the embarrassing > irony when President Bush says things like "God is on our side" [2]. > > Danny > > > Footnotes: > > [1] I know that post-election analysis revealed "religious values voting" > to be less of a factor than "fear of terrorism voting". Nonetheless, > without the fundamentalist religious right we would not have Bush or gay > marriage bans. As Lee Newman argued a while back (I'll dig up the > references if anyone's interested), the difference between Bush's > popularity in the US vs everywhere else in the world is explained by our > much higher degree of religiosity. > > [2] actual quote along the lines of "God is not neutral in this conflict > between freedom and fear" > > PS: to get on or off the improvetheworld list: > http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld > > -- > http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves" > > "In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" -- Homer Simpson > > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_21810_1103888920_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Danny,
 
Agree with you 1000%!
 
George
 
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> After 9/11, Jerry Falwell said on the 700 Club (1 million viewers per
> day):
>
> "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the
> feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make
> that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all
> of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their
> face and say 'you helped this happen.'"
>
> The host, Pat Roberts, agreed and prayed for the de-secularization of the
> United States government as our best protection against terrorism.
>
> I bring this up again because I strongly feel that *that* is the root
> cause of what is wrong in this country [1].
>
> What do 9/11 and gay marriage bans have in common! ? Religious
> fundamentalism.
>
> Let's keep pointing this out until people start to feel the embarrassing
> irony when President Bush says things like "God is on our side" [2].
>
> Danny
>
>
> Footnotes:
>
> [1] I know that post-election analysis revealed "religious values voting"
> to be less of a factor than "fear of terrorism voting". Nonetheless,
> without the fundamentalist religious right we would not have Bush or gay
> marriage bans. As Lee Newman argued a while back (I'll dig up the
> references if anyone's interested), the difference between Bush's
> popularity in the US vs everywhere else in the world is explained by our
> much higher degree of religiosity.
>
> [2] actual quote along the lines of "God is not neutral in this conflict
> between freedom and fear"
>
> PS: to get on or off the improvetheworld list: > http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
&g t;
> --
> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves - - google://"Daniel Reeves"
>
> "In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" -- Homer Simpson
>
>
>
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