X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.0-r431796 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k9C4Ivnw011110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:18:58 -0400 Received: from tadpole.mr.itd.umich.edu (tadpole.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.72]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9C4ItkG026415; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:18:55 -0400 Received: FROM edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.27]) BY tadpole.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 452DC22C.E036F.19204 ; 12 Oct 2006 00:18:52 -0400 Received: from edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k9C4JHlx015396 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:19:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (jmickens Æ localhost) by edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k9C4JH36015393 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:19:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0-r431796 (2006-08-16) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:19:17 -0400 (EDT) To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: James W Mickens Subject: Re: MCRI Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 791 If you care about diversity, I think that you should vote against MCRI. Prior experience with similar measures suggests that if MCRI passes, the diversity levels in our schools and workplaces will suffer. For example, in the year after California passed a similar measure (Proposition 209), minority admissions dropped by 61% at Berkeley and 36% at UCLA, and they still have not returned to pre-209 levels. A study from Princeton found that affirmative action plays a crucial national role in promoting diverse classrooms, finding that "without affirmative action the acceptance rate for African-American candidates likely would fall nearly two-thirds, from 33.7 percent to 12.2 percent, while the acceptance rate for Hispanic applicants likely would be cut in half, from 26.8 percent to 12.9 percent . . . removing consideration of race would have little effect on white students [as] their acceptance rate would rise by merely 0.5 percentage points . . . but Asian students would fill nearly four out of every five places in the admitted class not taken by African-American and Hispanic students" [1]. A report from the University of Michigan [2] says the following about MCRI and Proposition 209: "Although described by its supporters as a civil rights effort, the MCRI, like Prop. 209, appears to confer no additional civil rights on the basis of race, gender, ethnicity or national origin. Prop. 209 has resulted in the elimination of services such as college preparation programs for students of color, summer science programs for girls, outreach to notify minority and women-owned businesses of government contracting opportunities, and funding for training of minority doctors and nurses. It has ended the requirement that state boards reflect the population of the state and resulted in the end of numerous voluntary K-12 school integration efforts. It has also led to significant decreases in: -government contracts awarded to minority and women-owned businesses -the percentage of women working in the construction trades -hiring of minority and female university professors in the University of California system . . ." [2] When you think about voting for MCRI, ask yourself, "are these the things that I want to happen in Michigan?" After California, Florida, and Texas banned affirmative action, they turned to "Top 10%" or "Top 20%" programs to bolster drops in diversity. These programs guarantee all high school students in the top N% of their graduating classes automatic admission to a state university. Unfortunately, as described in this article: http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0212/p03s01-usgn.html these programs have not been successful in returning diversity levels to their previous levels. According to a law professor quoted in the article, a percentage program is "better than nothing, but it's much worse than considering race . . . everybody wants a magic bullet that increases diversity without considering race. Well, there isn't any magic bullet." I do believe that socioeconomic status should be a primary determinant of preferential treatment. However, as the University of Michigan report states, "socioeconomic status is a highly problematic proxy for race [since] even those who are affluent may still experience bias and discrimination. Socioeconomic status is [also] ineffective as a proxy for gender" [2]. Thus, effective diversity policies cannot be totally blind to race and gender. Improving diversity is not just about helping people who grew up poor or went to bad schools. It's about helping people who have encountered or will encounter difficulties to personal success that will not be based on their intrinsic merit. > My work on Yootles is turning me into a > libertarian and for the sake of consistency, > if nothing else, I think I'm going to go > with Yes on MCRI. (I suppose a hardcore > libertarian would say No -- no legislation > concerning race at all. But since I think > anti-discrimination laws are important I'd > prefer the simplest, fairest, most consistent > form of such laws possible, ie, "no racial > discrimination for any reason ever".) What exactly do you mean by discrimination? When you say "no racial discrimination for any reason," you seem to invoke a pejorative sense of discrimination, i.e., you are against discrimination because it represents an intrinsically unfair bias against a racial or gender group. But do you really think that eliminating affirmative action will result in a net *decrease* in unfair discrimination? To correct social inequalities, don't we have to accept that the inequalities exist and then take positive discriminative actions to address them? Without affirmative action, do you think that people in male-dominated fields will become *more* inclined to admit women? If the answer is no, does it bother you that female representation will suffer without affirmative action? You are against "racial discrimination." But isn't it racial discrimination to tell a black kid who attends a crappy inner-city school and can't afford Kaplan classes that we won't take these priors into account? Isn't it discriminatory to tell that black kid that even though he may have equivalent raw intelligence to a privileged white kid who went to private school, we'll evaluate their SAT scores in the same way? Isn't it discriminatory to reward the white kid and punish the black kid for the accidental circumstances of their birth? Affirmative action based solely on race is not optimal. However, race-based metrics do serve as a crude approximation of one's disenfranchisement. The Princeton study indicates that banning affirmative action will do little to help whites but a lot to hurt ethnic minorities. Banning affirmative action will also hurt gender integration. So, if you're in favor of diversity, and the Michigan ballot contains no alternative diversity plan to affirmative action, why would you vote for MCRI? ~j [1] This quote is taken from a summary of the actual report: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S11/80/77I23/index.xml The report itself can be found here: http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/Tje/EspenshadeSSQPtII.pdf [2] An executive summary of the report can be found here: http://www.cew.umich.edu/PDFs/MCRIresearchsummary.pdf This is the full thing: http://www.cew.umich.edu/PDFs/MCRIecon6-25.pdf