X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.0-r372567 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.13.0) with ESMTP id k7EM9Inw026833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:09:18 -0400 Received: from madman.mr.itd.umich.edu (madman.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.75]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7EM9GNQ021888; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:09:16 -0400 Received: FROM edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.27]) BY madman.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 44E0F48A.5CAD9.14428 ; 14 Aug 2006 18:09:14 -0400 Received: from edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (localhost.eecs.umich.edu [127.0.0.1]) by edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k7EM9MTM028594 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:09:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (jmickens Æ localhost) by edinburgh.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k7EM9MNo028591 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:09:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <44DF6DE6.1010203 Æ umich.edu> <3CE327AF-BB1E-466D-95C9-3F9E6E0F3D89 Æ umich.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0-r372567 (2006-01-26) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:09:21 -0400 (EDT) To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu From: James W Mickens Subject: Re: stupid feel-good "no liquids" rule Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 697 > You are right to point out this inconsistency. However, consider the fact > that there is very little security on passenger train travel in the U.S. and > in most of Europe. Yes, there are many threat vectors, but that doesn't mean that we should ignore safeguards against common methods of maliciousness. For example, most of us live in apartments or houses that have locks on the doors. These locks prevent the casual malcontent from entering through the door and doing evil things to our belongings. Unfortunately for us, locks can be picked by skilled criminals. Furthermore, with enough force, a door can be knocked down without the need to subvert the lock. Even worse, someone could break in through the windows. And if that weren't enough, a particularly clever (and skinny) criminal could stealthily enter through the chimney, and so on and so forth. The outlook seems bleak for lock-based security. But despite the various ways in which door locks can be circumvented, it still makes sense to have them. They do offer some level of security. They are not useless. The same is true with airport security checks. > I still don't know all the details of the latest attempted attack, but it > sounds like these attackers never even set foot in an airport. Their plan was > foiled long before that. Evidence recovered after the 9/11 attacks shows that > it also probably could have been avoided by similar means, i.e. by using > intelligence agencies, without inconveniencing travelers. It is insufficient to just rely on intelligence agencies to stop terrorist threats before they emerge. We would never get rid of our door locks because we thought that the police could anticipate all burglaries and thwart them before they occurred. The locks are a backup. Similarly, the security checks at airports work in conjunction with the efforts of counterterrorism agencies. By themselves, these agencies do not provide all of the safeguards provided by on-site checks. These checks can be burdensome to travelers, but we live in a dangerous world, and there would certainly be more danger and more terrorist attacks if we didn't have these checks in place. To abolish these checks would lead to tragedy and most Americans would be loathe to elect a leader who pledged to do this. The fact that we could get through airport security faster would be a cold comfort to someone who gets blown up over the Atlantic. Enumerating the morbid science fiction ways in which terrorists can strike us helps to motivate the need for addressing the root causes of terrorism. However, fixing these causes is a long term goal. It does *not* provide short-term security for present threats. If I told you that I was going to reduce crime in an unsafe neighborhood by bringing in more jobs and improving the schools, you would say that this is great. Unfortunately, the neighborhood would still be unsafe at the current moment. To say that a public policy would make things better in the future is not to say that it makes the present rosy. I'm glad that our airports are at least trying to ensure that I live to see that rosy future. ~j