Message Number: 44
From: Matthew Rudary <mrudary Æ eecs.umich.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:10:46 -0500
Subject: Re: climate change
Becker (a Nobel-prize-winning economist) and Posner (a Circuit Court 
judge) discuss global warming and the Kyoto protocol this week on their 
blog, at http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/
Interestingly, Posner, who is fairly conservative, supports the US 
signing the Kyoto protocol.

Matt

Daniel Reeves wrote:
> Thanks Chris.  Those are worth reading.  I once came across a Car and
> Driver article (someone in the lab taped it to the wall) lambasting global
> warming research.  I found the premise of the article disgusting:  that
> there isn't enough proof that the observed climate changes are human
> influenced.  It's like pooh-poohing getting your brakes checked because
> not all the mechanics agree that your car is a time bomb and the ones who
> think it is are using questionable evidence.
> 
> In other words, even if the actual probability is quite low that the
> climate changes are human-caused, we still desperately need to act.
> 
> that's my $0.02.
> 
> oh, one more thing, since it relates to the AAA debate.  Can't read all
> that much into this but I just googled around and found an anti kyoto
> treaty website quoting a AAA publication from 1998 about how "only" 13-17%
> of scientists believe things like global warming is caused by humans or
> that there are catastrophic consequences to not reducing greenhouse gases.
> 
> Actually, aside from that shameful quote from AAA, the website made some
> seemingly good points about why we shouldn't adopt Kyoto.  Could someone
> with a clue impart their cluefulness this way?
> 
> Danny
> 
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> 
> --- \/   FROM Chris Kiekintveld AT 04.12.07 18:00 (Dec 7)   \/ ---
> 
> 
>>Some fun stuff on slashdot today about global warming:
>>
>>First, an article about a study of the last 10 years of
>>articles published in peer-reviewed science journals about
>>global warming shows an unusual degree of consensus on
>>the basic question of global warming:
>>
>>http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686
>>
>>And, a group of geologists presents a pretty clear overview
>>of the case that "The dangers posed by climate change are no longer
>>merely possible and long-term. They are probable, imminent, and global
>>in scope.":
>>
>>http://ebulletin.le.ac.uk/features/2000-2009/2004/12/nparticle-vkt-hgf...
> 
>