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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:02:21 -0500 (EST)
To: improvetheworld &AElig umich.edu
From: Daniel Reeves <dreeves &AElig umich.edu>
Subject: Re: are you a feminist?
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There's been quite a backlash against my feminism poll.  I'm delighted=20
that my mom joined me in the hardcore liberal feminist camp.  But, based=20
on private responses from many of you, far too many people are just not=20
willing to call themselves feminists and I see this as a big problem.

First, there's mass misconception about the whole concept of Labels.=20
Labels are necessary and highly useful. People need something to identify=
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with and rally around. There can't be a feminist movement without the=20
label "feminism"!

How bout a new poll:  Do think the Equal Rights Amendment [1] should be=20
ratified?  reply (simple yes or no is fine) to me privately and I'll=20
compile the results.


[1] google it.

--- \/   FROM Daniel Reeves AT 05.11.04 11:41 (Yesterday)   \/ ---

> thanks Michelle (and Kevin for the reference).
> I updated my Label here
>  http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
> if anyone else wants to join me now...  (Rob? Michelle?)
>
> This is from the wikipedia entry for Liberal Feminism (definitely what I=
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> am):
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_feminism
>
>    The goal of liberal feminism in the United States was embodied in the=
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> Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which was never ratified=
=2E It=20
> said, "Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged b=
y=20
> the United States or any state on account of sex." -- Judith Lorber Gende=
r=20
> Inequality: Feminist Theories and Politics, Second Edition
>
>
> --- \/   FROM mjste &AElig umich.edu AT 05.11.04 08:04 (Today)   \/ ---
>
>> danny,just a quick clarification.....you say that you are a hard-core
>> radical feminist.=A0 from what i know about feminism, you probably
>> aren't a radical feminist.=A0 radical feminism emerged as a response to
>> liberal feminism, which tried to obtain equality between men and women
>> in job spheres, home spheres, etc.=A0 it argues for a somewhat
>> separatist notion of female, almost essentializing women.=A0 women are
>> inherently more compassionate, possess nurturing capacities distinct
>> from men, draw power from sisterhood and solidarity.=A0 it implicitly
>> calls into question the need for men.=A0 i would think of radical
>> feminists to be andrea dwarkin and catherine mckinnon (all sex is
>> rape, she argues).=A0
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>> On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:15 AM, Daniel Reeves wrote:
>> Quick show of hands for your basic attitude towards feminism (and
>> also I'm curious who all is reading along)?
>> http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/improvetheworld
>> Don't forget to hit submit on the whiteboard.=A0 If you don't know what
>> that means, just read the poll at the link above and email me your
>> (ideally one-word) response.
>> Thanks y'all!Danny
>> --=A0http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves=A0 - -=A0 google://"Daniel
>> Reeves"
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>> Michelle SternthalJoint Doctoral Program in Sociology & Public
>> PolicyUniversity of Michigan734-709-6650 (cell)mjste &AElig umich.edu
>>=20
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>

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http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves  - -  google://"Daniel Reeves"

Withhold not correction from the child;
For though thou beat him with the rod, he will not die.
Thou beatest him with the rod,
And wilt deliver his soul from the nether-world.
--Proverbs, 23:13.  (submitted by Mark Skandera, 2002-12-10)

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