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I took a few years of Latin too. It was dead then, dead now, but helped my
voculbery. But 'Eat my Shorts' probably wasn't a phrase we used back when I
took it. Googling helps sort out all these useful new phrases.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A218882

Meanwhile, if you are driven by a principle, you should not let gender or
past roadblocks get in the way. Carol and I just watched the movie 'Iron
Jawed Angels' about the suffragists who struggled to secure women's right to 
vote. As I watched this movie I thought of the women not as feminists, not
liberal, not democratic nor republican, but as principled -- driven. We
highly recommend it.
  On 10/14/05, Andrew Reeves   wrote:
>
> Thank you for your interesting response. I do not doubt that actual
> human personalities are a varying mix of the "masculine principle" (go
> out and get the bacon) vs. the "feminine principle" (stay home and tend
> the hearth), with nobody 100% one or the other. But these personality
> types were named as they are because of their superior biological
> suitability to play these roles, which is also the overwhelming present
> statistical distribution between the genders. I think it's perfectly all
> right if everyone follows his/her own inclinations which every now and
> then might go against the mainstream. I only object to societal
> pressures trying to force people into molds they do not fit into.
> Remember, this whole debate started with a report in the New York Times
> claiming that the trend in elite colleges these days favors stay-home
> moms over professionally active women during the reproductive years.
> Robert Felty suggested that this impression was deliberately created by
> biased choice of the interviewed subjects; Danny felt that it was a
> self-fulfilling prophecy with anti-feminist ulterior motives. Dave
> admitted that the trend may be genuine but he regarded it as an
> undesirable residue of ancient and now obsolete natural inclinations.
> It is only against these ideas that I voiced protest.
> By the way, I must admit shamefacedly that I do not understand
> "vescere bracis meis"! So much for my six years of school Latin.
> DANNY'S GRANDPA ANDREW
>
>


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Regards,

John J. Kapusky

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 I took a few years of Latin too.  It was dead then, dead now, but  helped my
voculbery.  But 'Eat my Shorts' probably wasn't a phrase we  used back when I
took it.  Googling helps sort out all these useful new	phrases. 

   
  http://www.bbc.co.uk /dna/h2g2/A218882   Meanwhile, if you are driven by a
principle, you	should not let gender or past roadblocks get in the way.  Carol
and  I just watched the movie 'Iron Jawed Angels' about the suffragists who
struggled  to secure women's right to vote.  As I watched this movie I thought 
of the women not as feminists, not liberal, not democratic nor republican , but
as principled -- driven.  We highly recommend it.
 
   
   
  On 10/14/05,	Andrew Reeves  < andrew.reeves  Æ wayne.edu > wrote:

   Thank you for your interesting  response. I do not doubt that actual human
personalities are a  varying mix of the "masculine principle" (go
 out and get the bacon) vs. the "feminine principle" (stay home  and tend the
hearth), with nobody 100% one or the other. But these personality  types were
named as they are because of their superior biological 
 suitability to play these roles, which is also the overwhelming present 
statistical distribution between the genders. I think it's perfectly all  right
if everyone follows his/her own inclinations which every now and
 then might go against the mainstream. I only object to societal pressures 
trying to force people into molds they do not fit into. Remember, this	whole
debate started with a report in the New York Times claiming that  the trend in
elite colleges these days favors stay-home
 moms over professionally active women during the reproductive years. Robert
Felty suggested that this impression was deliberately created by biased choice
of the interviewed subjects; Danny felt that it was a 
self-fulfilling prophecy with anti-feminist ulterior motives. Dave admitted 
that the trend may be genuine but he regarded it as an undesirable residue  of
ancient and now obsolete natural inclinations. It is only against  these ideas
that I voiced protest.
   By the way, I must admit shamefacedly that I do not understand  "vescere
bracis meis"! So much for my six years of school Latin .   DANNY'S GRANDPA
ANDREW	     
 --  Regards,	John J. Kapusky 

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