X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Sender: -2.6 (spamval) -- NONE Return-Path: Received: from newman.eecs.umich.edu (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX18O5IhdbvSdtPRqotp63AK3Ekj4obJn7DY Æ newman.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.4.11]) by boston.eecs.umich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3SDdQlj028390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:39:27 -0400 Received: from fate.mr.itd.umich.edu (fate.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.130]) by newman.eecs.umich.edu (8.13.2/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j3SDdKb2014309; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:39:20 -0400 Received: FROM ns0.cbtcompanies.com (68-77-225-91.ded.ameritech.net [68.77.225.91]) BY fate.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4270E760.AFC7F.5174 ; 28 Apr 2005 09:38:40 -0400 Received: from mobilemr (CBT [68.77.225.65]) by ns0.cbtcompanies.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with SMTP id j3SDde8N027158; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42702358.D8252788 Æ wayne.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam: NO X-Spam-Score: -49.5 () ISO_7BITS,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on newman.eecs.umich.edu X-Virus-Scan: : UVSCAN at UoM/EECS Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:38:13 -0500 To: "Andrew Reeves" , From: "Martin Reeves" Subject: RE: Pope Benendict XVI Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 151 It would be interesting to hear Ratzinger own memories of his time on the South-east Wall. I would construe any reluctance on his part to talk about it or vague answers to questions with a lot of 'I don't recall' in his answers to mean he was NOT an innocent bystander. Even if he was an innocent bystander, a truly righteous person should have extensively reported on the abuses he witnessed! Does that or any article say he did at least that? Is it possible that this story could escalate and 'derail' the new Pope and the Catholic Church? Martin Reeves CBT Companies Inc. Peoria and Moline, IL www.cbtcompanies.com Direct: (309) 495-1741 Toll Free: (800) 747-6500 Cell: (309) 453-2007 Fax: (309) 676-6068 Email mreeves Æ cbtmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Reeves [mailto:andrew.reeves Æ wayne.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:42 PM To: improvetheworld Æ umich.edu Subject: Pope Benendict XVI NEWSWEEK magazine, current issue, contains a story on the early life of the new Pope and I quote from page 46 the following paragraph: "During the war, Ratzinger's firsthand experience with the German military were a boy's grim chronicles of helplessness and defeat. He had entered seminary at the age of 12, but was compelled to join the local Hitler Youth in 1941, when he was 14. At 17, he was building earthworks and tank traps alongside Jewish forced laborers near the Austro-Hungarian border." I was one of those Jewish forced laborers in the village of Fertorakos from November 1944 until March 1945 (for details, see Chapter 5 of my autobiography, section entitled "Slave Labor on the South-East Wall") and I can assure you with absolute certainty that no Gentile persons of any sort were "working alongside" us. The very idea would have appeared preposterous; we were treated and housed worse than animals. There were uniformed young kids among our SUPERVISORS, and I can tell you that typically they were just as cruel, hateful, and meanspirited as their elders--sometimes more so. Of course, there were some exceptions too, and once I even got a cupful of extra food from one of them. In any case, misrepresenting this experience as "working alongside" us is an outrageous insult which is not what one would expect from the POPE!!! Danny's Grandpa Andrew